James Di Giovanni
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On 3/5/2021 at 11:41 AM, Larry Mass said:
Hi guys i have been picking away at my t15 and as i work on it i have been wandering if the t15's were painted in winter camo. and if so is there a standard pattern that they follow and what is the color.
Thanks in advance
Larry
Ok so for the T15 through m29 series xxx??? All weasels came out of the factory (if not being used for testing) lusterless White, with one of 3 camo patterns. The black camo pattern was hand brushed and used a special gas solvable paint. This was applied to the top and the body.
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In regards to the stretches.
The factory did not install stretcher components until the amphibian body ORD 3102 through the last weasel ORD 15126.
All weasels before 3102 would of had motor pool added stretcher kits if available.
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What hold on......😁 Please check the left hand side of the block.....
Left side behind the water pump.
There should be a small flat spot on the block. With a prefix followed by a number.
What is the prefix??????
Is it
t-15....?
Or
T-24....?
If nothing than its a commercial block.
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On 9/20/2020 at 2:02 PM, 5280Beltfed said:
Starting up a thread for more information about my recent acquisition. Everyone is referring this unit as a “C” M29 but the hull tag is does not have a C in the number. I’ve read some units where made ready for the float tanks but are still considered a regular M-29. I’m a little confused I about what to refer to it as. It has Norwegian instructional plates above the steering and on the dash.
Hello,
I have in my collection the majority of different variations of M29's
So the biggest deciding factor is your data plate. That still bears the original rivets. This plate needs to be cleaned up a bit more.
Yes the data plate behind the driver seat will say M-29. The hull tag will say M-29.
Small history on the last M29.
When Studebaker came up with there "amphibious body" before the M29C was supposed to hit the assembly line 1000 "Amphibious bodys" where made into factory M29's. Starting with serial number / ORD 3103 to 4103
I would also like to point out that when the big body change from earlier m29 bodys to the new "Amphibious body" the hull tag numbers started over.
There are now very few examples left so these body types should be deemed as rare.
**Confused colletors😉
This rare body variant often confuseses collectors because the initial thoughts are that its an M29C. Identical hulls yes, the thought was that if ever needed theses units can (with small modification) be turn in to M29C's
Now before someone says it😁😉
Yes there are 2 different bodys of this rare type. " Early" still has the insulation tabs through the body.
"Late" no tabs. Inside is identical to a normal M29C
So how to tell.
Well much like the T-24 to first series M-29 the body's are identical.
***Which is another thing I'll be getting into**"😁😉
So when striped down its almost impossible to tell the difference.
**The original date plates are your friend.***
**Now if you found a last M-29 striped down** how to tell.
Well all units from 3103 to 4103 where given factory front tow hooks and factory spot welded pioneer tool brackets on the rear..
If your machine is lacking all 3 points the chances that its a usual M29C are high.
Now to sum up.....until i get back to my research...which is at home.... Your hull tag number looks to high to be a rare m29 im thinking possibly it has been swapped.
"Again i say figure out what your data plate actually says that is the real decider"
But again ill check my numbers later to night to confirm. I have both an "early bodied" Late M29 and a very early M-29-C in my collection with all original plates and tags.
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For the t-24 through M-29-C
I like to use Rust-Oleum light machine Gray. This matched up to the original gray i found
Items that where gray as follows.
Drive line, fuel tank. Black symbolized a replacement part.
But i believe that the exhaust was black, also top and bottom of carb and the distributor. Oil canister, canister bracket regulator bracket
Everything else should be gray.
Note i have found what appears to be original gray paint on the manifold.
For the T-15. It appears a slightly darker color was used.
Rust-Oleum dark machine Gray
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This is used in conjunction with the parachute system
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Hello DIYJ. Could you please post some pics of the outside and inside of your machine as well. I saw your post of your Hull tag UST-24-2030. I'm curious what the sheet metal looks like. Does this machine still have Para bracket holes??
Thank you
James
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On 5/14/2020 at 12:54 PM, Jim Gilmore said:
Jim D wrote,
DIYJ. Your weasel would be an M29.
They made 1002 T24s.
The actual production of the T-24 ( Weasels with main data plates marked "T 24" ) was 1,000 vehicles. There were 2 pilot vehicles hand assembled before production started.
But factory kept the Hull # ust-24-0000.
It was actually Hull # UST-24-0001 that the factory kept. I do not believe that T24 hull numbers started at UST-24-0000 but at 0001.
Your Weasel is most likely the first production M29
This vehicle would not have been the first M-29. The first vehicle with a main data plate marked "M 29" would have been ORD/MFG # 1003.
Jim
Hey Jim,
His "Hull number" is ust-24 - 2030.
If this is is not an M29 than what was the last T-24 Hull number?
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Now John's T24 ....1002 ORD has a Hull tag of UST- 24 - 949
We do know that the first production M29 series ORD1003 on did still use UST-24- hull tags
I have never personally found when the first production M29 stop and the second started. It is my belief that m-29 ORD 2303. Is of the third production run. I own ORD 2326 and it has a Hull tag of M29-xxxx
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3 hours ago, Patrick Tipton said:
Many thanks @James Di Giovanni and @M29C3284 for the assistance. I am still confused why there was something spot welded around that hole.....I will do more investigation on my hull and report if I find anything....
Regards, Patrick
It is merely just a reinforcement so the rocking of the partition or the setting of the partition does not tear the metal it should also be noted that the partition acts as a sidewall for when the cargo is in the weasel and the cargo cover will also get strapped to it
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On 3/20/2020 at 3:45 AM, F.Janssen said:
Herewith an update
Can you post pictures of your Weasel? that would be a big help. There are many different types including post war made vehicles
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On 3/7/2020 at 7:27 AM, DIYJ said:
This is the only tag on my Weasel
DIYJ. Your weasel would be an M29.
They made 1002 T24s. But factory kept the Hull # ust-24-0000. That stop somewhere in the 1003 - 2102 production.
Your Weasel is most likely the first production M29
Do you have any pictures of your machine?
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On 4/14/2020 at 2:10 PM, M29C3284 said:
That hole should be empty. I don't know what it is for, but there are two similar holes in the center floor that hold the cargo partition panel. So I'm guessing that this hole might have something to do with that as the center floor drawing was revised to include these holes on the same date.
As for the revision of the floor it was only for one thing and that was the inspection hole over the trans.
All weasels prior to 3102 "did not" have the center floor inspection hole for the trans
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And using your picture.. here is the hole on the right side of the center floor
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Here is the right side pocket for the partition. Note early weasels prior to m-29 sir. 2102. Did not have the hat channel pictured do the post pocket stood alone
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Here are the two holes in the bulkhead for the partition
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Here are the holes in the rear panel for the partition
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The partition had 2 posts on the bottom to connect into the floor. And 1 on either side. If you look at the bulk head and the center back of both side of the tunnel, below the combing. You can see the upper securing Post locations
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I will look through my archives and search for a picture but I believe one of those holes has to do with the wire clamp for the twin defrosters
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Why the mystical and very rare cargo partition of course! The cargo partition was ambidextrous. it could be placed on both the right and left side of the cargo compartment so the radio operator can be separated from the cargo.
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On 1/31/2020 at 10:27 AM, Jesse Browning said:
We also have winch drive train parts: sliding clutch and fork, telescoping drive shaft, the bearing and shims, and locking ring for the lower pulley. Lock ring and thrust washer for splined shaft. Send us your bracket, splined shaft, shift arm and pulley and well put it all together. $500 for all that. We have both of the cable clamps. The rest of the parts are available commercially NOS.
Do sell just the separate parts???
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18 hours ago, Patrick Bell said:
James, do they allow or sell copies of the blueprints?
Yes 25 cents to $300. All depends on size of the print
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18 hours ago, Signsup said:
One important criteria will be the look and effectiveness of orginal design vs. modern road pads. I have a set of type 4 tracks on my weasel with all ofv the original road pads intact and I have not found a parade or event that will allow me to drive on their concrete with them. Perhaps more rubber on the surface than steel and they may allow. So, to what end do we search and spend time and efvfvort on original type road pads.
To the end of .....stop throwing money at a one-way issue. There's now way to make disposable tack new again. Save the money that will be thrown down the tube. ....even if you make new pads that hold, the 70+ year old grouser will break .............Buy new tracks.... Problem solved..
This is 15 year's of original banded tack. Then moved on to LAR track (2011 run) talking
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You will find all of these blue prints at the Studebaker National Archives
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Wow. Amazing work... This is needed.for a lot of top rollers and early idler wheels
Patrick. All rubber on original machines where black. Some do have over spray. But that's it.
The true difference in boogie wheels.
Is as follows.
1943. BF Goodrich is placed on the inside of the wheel. Not visible from the outside at all.
1944. BF Goodrich is now on facing the outside and a red circle is used
1945 still on the outside now using a red rounded rectangle.
Some 45 examples can be found with red circle
Post war monarch makes boogie wheels
1943 T-24 Restoration Thread
in Headquarters
Posted
@Patrick Tipton
"My biggest distraction is the M29 I purchased with all my parts for the T24...it runs but has a ton of problems - so tempting to play with it because it does move under its own power but I am trying (somewhat unsuccessfully) to stay focused on the T24!"