04mustang Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Hi, I'm sure that this has been addressed in some form or fashion in the past but I can't seem to locate it. Does anyone have a reference for modern bearing, race and seal numbers for the suspension on the weasels? Ive found the bogie seals with skf 12391. But can't find the bearings or races/cups. Also looking for the same info on the idler and drive bearings. And u joints for the drive shafts for that matter. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tipton Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 The ORD 9 parts manual has Timken numbers......you should be able to find everything you need online pretty easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04mustang Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Patrick Tipton said: The ORD 9 parts manual has Timken numbers......you should be able to find everything you need online pretty easily. Thank you Patrick. I found those numbers for the bogie parts but nothing in the manual has a Timken or any civilain bearing numbers for the return rollers, idler, or drive parts. So the search continues.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tipton Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, 04mustang said: Thank you Patrick. I found those numbers for the bogie parts but nothing in the manual has a Timken or any civilain bearing numbers for the return rollers, idler, or drive parts. So the search continues.... I will look in a little while....I have seen them somewhere.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tipton Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 It is in the original SNL G179....for the T24...Timken numbers in the back and they cross reference to Group and part numbers. What manual are you looking at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04mustang Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) I'm in the ord 9 snl g-179 March 1953 Edited April 14, 2021 by 04mustang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M29 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) Bogey Wheel Bearing Part # Bearing 09078 Race 09194 Return rollers are needle bearings 2 per wheel . I use Koyo brand T0116P532533 . Yamulla at Military Vehicle Supply has them I got the koyo brand from a local supplier Price to re bearing a complete M29 weasel around 800 to 1000.00 + Dan Edited April 14, 2021 by M29 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tipton Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 FWIW - the early ORD 789 G154/179 does have the Timken Numbers....they are only cross referenced to the Group so the chart itself is not useful without the rest of the book - you have to go to the Group Number and locate the Timken Number there (usually in a parenthesis...) Here is the download: and we sell a nice reprint if you want the printed and bound version: https://www.portrayalpress.com/product-p/ord-789-g154.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZM29C Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 @04mustangAs an alternative to the return roller needle bearing, I have fitted bronze bushings. This mod was done to the Australian Weasels operating in Antarctica. This mod also allows you to fit a wider bushing (on one side only) to more evenly distribute the load. The take out return roller shafts that I have all show extreme wear in way of the needle rollers. The needle rollers don't take too kindly to lack of lubrication and being exposed to water/moisture. Just a thought. I have attached a couple of photos for you to study. Cheers Return roller gasket.pdf 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04mustang Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 16 hours ago, Patrick Tipton said: FWIW - the early ORD 789 G154/179 does have the Timken Numbers....they are only cross referenced to the Group so the chart itself is not useful without the rest of the book - you have to go to the Group Number and locate the Timken Number there (usually in a parenthesis...) Here is the download: and we sell a nice reprint if you want the printed and bound version: https://www.portrayalpress.com/product-p/ord-789-g154.htm Thank you Sir!, I already had purchased it from you some time back, just didn't have it with me at the time I was typing yesterday. I spent some time a dug through both manuals and found the chart you referenced. It is a bit confusing but I worked through it with the group numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tipton Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 6 hours ago, OZM29C said: @04mustangAs an alternative to the return roller needle bearing, I have fitted bronze bushings. Impressive work John! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04mustang Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 6 hours ago, OZM29C said: @04mustangAs an alternative to the return roller needle bearing, I have fitted bronze bushings. This mod was done to the Australian Weasels operating in Antarctica. This mod also allows you to fit a wider bushing (on one side only) to more evenly distribute the load. The take out return roller shafts that I have all show extreme wear in way of the needle rollers. The needle rollers don't take too kindly to lack of lubrication and being exposed to water/moisture. Just a thought. I have attached a couple of photos for you to study. Cheers Return roller gasket.pdf 86.28 kB · 0 downloads John, I have to ask, where did you find the return roller bushings and shafts? I do believe I will end up needing to replace at least 2 if not all 4 of the shafts on my M29C because they appear to be bent from over tension of the tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tipton Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 @04mustangJohn will chime in ...FYI Mustang if you tag him by using the @ sign and his name @OZM29C , he will get a notification. ...and money says he made them! 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M29 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) you can weld up the old shafts and turn them down. I had to do this on several and works well. Also if not a machinist any decent machine shop can remake those shafts no sweat! Mine were worn where the bearing froze up and ate into the shaft. Dan Edited April 15, 2021 by M29 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04mustang Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) Here is all in one bearing/race/seal chart that I've put together for future reference for anyone that may be looking through manuals and searching for this info. Im still needing some info on U joints and a few oil seals though. Item Description Quantity Needed Ord Number Studebaker Number Timken Number SKF Number Koyo Number Bogie Bearing 32 705371 SD-511587 9078 Bogie Cup/Race 32 706806 SD-130983 9194 Bogie Oil Seal 32 7061963 SD-901988 12391 Return Roller Bearing 8 709424 SD-900812 T0116P532533 Return Roller Insulator 8 7016439 SD-199388 Return Roller Shaft 4 7010417 SD-908277 Idler/Drive Bearing Inner 4 705053 387-A Idler/Drive Cup/Race Inner 4 706647 382 Idler/Drive Oil Seal Inner 4 A307800 SD-900816 Idler/Drive Bearing Outer 4 705034 359-S Idler/Drive Cup/Race Outer 4 706640 354-A Drive Wheel Axle Shaft Seal 2 7016436 SD-908496 U Joint 2 A307552 SD-188641 Differential Axle Bearing 2 A307794 SD-900733 25581 Differential Axle Cup/Race 2 A307793 SD-900732 25520 Edited April 15, 2021 by 04mustang 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tipton Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Thank you! @04mustang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZM29C Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 15 hours ago, 04mustang said: John, I have to ask, where did you find the return roller bushings and shafts? I do believe I will end up needing to replace at least 2 if not all 4 of the shafts on my M29C because they appear to be bent from over tension of the tracks. I machined the bushings to suit from stock bronze. A very simple job for a capable machinist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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