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Hello guys. 

My name is Daniel and im from germany.

I just bought a weasel that is not in an original condition and i would need some help cause im confused with the serial number and hull number.

My ord serial number on the manufacture tag is 3107.

The hull tag reads M-29-317 

I can send pictures next week cause it is in a garage further away.

Would be happy for any help.

 

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7 hours ago, crasy D said:

Hello guys. 

My name is Daniel and im from germany.

I just bought a weasel that is not in an original condition and i would need some help cause im confused with the serial number and hull number.

My ord serial number on the manufacture tag is 3107.

The hull tag reads M-29-317 

I can send pictures next week cause it is in a garage further away.

Would be happy for any help.

 

That probably makes sense but @James Di Giovanni or @Jim Gilmore may have more.

The first 1000 or so were T-24s....the next 1000 were M29's but they still had T24 hull tags.  At some point they changed over to M29 hull tags and presumably started over at #1.....so you have an M29...presumably with the side flares for the 20 inch track.

Congrats -Weasels are awesome!

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Hey thank you very much.

The production year is only stamped with 194. Is it a 1944 then?

They put a rollcage in it and wanted to use it in sweden to move wood.

they welded a lot of things wrong i guess.

the exhaust is on the wrong side the back is not right and the long welds on the side .

i dont know whats original or not.

i hope it makes sence that i want to put it in ww2 Kondition and i hope its worth it .

the engine is a volvo 

So i dont know if it will have value

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It has had a hard life - but nothing that can't be fixed.   I am biased but I do think it is worth preserving.  There have been a lot of sheet metal repairs, but if you can weld and fabricate, it is just work to restore it back to WW2 condition. 
 

Kindly post pictures of the hull tag and more pictures of the interior.

Also, you should start a new thread in this main forum documenting your restoration.  This community will help you find what you need to get this machine back in WW2 condition.

Cheers!

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Hello all from New Zealand,

I’ve recently acquired a Weasel and with your assistance, I’d like to learn a little more about it.   The vehicle has had some sort of restoration, but apparently the previous owner could not get the engine to run afterwards.  I intend tidying up a few things on the hull and getting it to run.

From what I can see, the vehicle has a repro data plate behind the driver’s seat. The hull tag is missing but there is a stamped number on there just left of the centre of the bulkhead behind the driver's seat. Is this related to the hull number or just a drawing number of some sort on the plate?

I’m not sure where the US number painted on the side of the hull came from, nor the Ord Serial Number on the dataplate.

I've attached a few photos of the vehicle. 

What other features about the vehicle could shed some light on it’s year of manufacture/model/history etc?

Thanks

 Darryl Lennane

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Congrats and welcome.  Looks like a nice and complete machine.  They are a lot of fun for sure. 

From what I can tell, it looks like your machine is a straight M29, made after the initial batch of about 1000 that had 15 inch tracks and no side flares.  If the stamped number were to be a hull number (and it seems like it could be), then your machine would have been made in early 1944.

Doing maintenance on the engine with the engine in the hull is a chore.  If you can't get it started, I highly recommend just pulling it, making a quick test stand and sorting out the engine troubles outside of the machine.  You will save a lot of heartache in the long run.

I see several modifications, including the windshield wiper motors, and those beads on the front bow.  Hopefully some other folks will jump in here and offer some more information. 

I am not sure that is a repro plate.....most of the time, folks don't take the time to rivet them in place.  That looks original to my eyes, although the number does not make sense to me.


The hull tags are small tin strips....that looks like it might be a rebuild stamp of some sort or they removed the original tag when the stretcher brackets were installed and just stamped the number to keep a record of the hull number.  You can see the screw holes where the original tag would have been.

Those registration numbers are fantasy.  Your number would be 4017xxxx....likely 40176xxx and there are several folks here who should be able to help you narrow it down.

Look forward to videos of it driving!

Patrick

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Hi Patrick,

Many thanks for the detailed reply.  Can you confirm please where the screw holes for the data tag are?  Are they on the right side of that bulkhead?

The Ordnance number on the data tag says ‘14175’. If the data tag is original, would that suggest it is more likely a 1945 build? I’m suspicious about the data tag. It looks too good to be 80 years old.

If the data tag is not original, I wonder where the previous owner got that number from? As you say, the USA number on the hull is not correct so am not sure how the Ordnance number can appear to be possibly accurate, but the USA  number  is as you say, a complete fiction.

 

Cheers

Darryl

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The red circled hole is likely one of the hull tag mounting holes.  The hull tags had their holes punched and so the holes on the hull are chamfered.  I am thinking the other hole is right under the stretcher mount - likely why the hull tag was removed too.....Bulkhead.thumb.jpg.833de9ea1f5cda3e2917a72574ff9b5c.jpg

The reason I don't think that the 14xxx number is correct is because the radiator opening is not correct for an M29C and almost certainly a late '45 production machine would have been a true C.  I say almost certainly because I understand there were a small number of non-floaters made late in the war.  We are working on a book right now and have all of the contracts...I just have not been through them yet. 

The other thing - your machine has the holes to mount the front spot light....that was only a T24/M29 feature.  The holes are the three under the windscreen on the drivers side near the middle.  From the drivers view....right side near wiper motor...you can also see what an original wiper motor looks like.

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Hi there, this may be a bit of a thread hijack, but I’m looking for some info on some weasel blocks I have here,

#1 Stamped T24 8903 and low on the block X 4 11

#2 T24 6692.     x 3 10

#3 T24 II 54 (looks like capital i not a 1). And low on the block W 9. 30 (this block is white over red primer)

from the list from member Jannsen posted looks like these are all M29 vintage. 
 

I think I read the x means 1944, so is W 43?

Thx guys

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Lee said:

Hi there, this may be a bit of a thread hijack, but I’m looking for some info on some weasel blocks I have here,

#1 Stamped T24 8903 and low on the block X 4 11

#2 T24 6692.     x 3 10

#3 T24 II 54 (looks like capital i not a 1). And low on the block W 9. 30 (this block is white over red primer)

from the list from member Jannsen posted looks like these are all M29 vintage. 
 

I think I read the x means 1944, so is W 43?

Thx guys

 

Indeed! W=1943 and X=1944.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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